Q&A: M.P. John Cummins
Interviewed by Ronan Rushe
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| Photo courtesy courtesy of John Cummin’s Constituency Office |
John Cummins is an M.P. for the Delta - Richmond East riding in British Columbia and has represented this area for more than a decade. He has also been one of the more
outspoken critics of the Tsawwassen Treaty and the implications it has on the agriculture and fishing industries, as the Tsawwassen reserve is within the boundaries of his
constituency.
CG: What is the biggest concern for the agricultural community in BC?
JC: The issue from an agricultural point of view is that taking 446 hectares out of the land reserve should not be so simply done; this is important land specifically
for agricultural uses. If the Premier tried to take this land out and distribute it for any other industrial use every environmentalist and activist would be down his throat. He takes
it and transfers it to the Tsawwassen band, who are prepared to use it for industrial purposes, and all the environmentalists head for the hills.
CG: How does giving away land from the Agricultural Land Reserve affect the sustainability of farming in British Columbia?
JC: The big problem is that the farmland around the Fraser River is isolated and unique and there are local needs that this land could fulfill. Another issue is
that you have to sustain the processors, if you grow peas is there going to be anybody to process them? There has been a gradual shift from food crops to others because processors
have closed their doors. It’s a matter of producing crops locally, the more land you take away the less locally produced food you’ll have. If you take away even 500 hectares in the
Prairies it may not have much of an impact but 500 hectares has a significant impact in B.C.
CG: Should the government of BC give the Tsawwassen First Nation incentives to farm the land instead of building on it or?
JC: The amount of land being transferred is good for maybe one economically viable farm. There used to be band members who farmed the land, but now there is
a lot of investment involved in running a farm, some of the equipment costs upwards of a quarter of a million dollars. The Tsawwassen won’t farm the land because there is more
money to be made from industrial uses.
CG: Can the Tsawwassen First Nation be blamed for trying to make economic gains?
JC: There is nothing wrong with trying make some money, but the important question is if the people making the money understand the impact their decisions
will have on the land. The environmental issues are greater then the need for money.
CG: What are the biggest concerns as far as the fishing rights given to the Tsawwassen band in the treaty?
JC: If the 40 or 50 more bands up the river negotiate for the same rights and get the same access you’re going to need 170% of the allowable catch just to
keep everyone afloat.
CG: What type of impact could this have on the fishing industry in BC?
JC: If you start interfering with fishing rights the impact will be huge for people in the industry. Probably in British Columbia the fishing industry has
lost some significance, as there has been a general decline over the years. By giving away these rights you’ve got people who have made an investment in their enterprise and
you’re essentially saying, "We don’t care, we’re going to take it away."
CG: How do the fishing rights given to the Tsawwassen Natives compound the issue of the existing general decline?
JC: Well it is under 1% of the allowable catch, but there are bands further up the coast that are larger who will want fishing rights too. If you start
divvying up fishing rights based on a per capita basis you’ll be above the allowable catch.
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